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Wylan van Eck, as Kuwei Yul-Bo ([personal profile] daturameloxia) wrote2012-11-21 09:12 am
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Hello, you've reached Wylan.

[A pause, and then a quiet,] What else do I say? Oh.

Please leave a message and, um, I will be with you as soon as I can. Thank you!
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[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2025-01-03 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
No. A sign that you equate any kind of harm the same as the worst harm you have ever experienced.

And that isn't good because it means anytime you are hurt, you will always take it to the extreme, and there is no way to have a healthy relationship if that's the only way you can view harm.

The status of yours and MK's relationship has a lot of moving parts, most of them not in my control. Those parts have to settle before I talk to you about all my concerns personally about the relationships.

That stops the panic attack. Did the emotions that started it go away? And what if you had run away first?

What if he runs away first?
schrodingerscockroach: (So goddamn tired)

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[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2025-01-03 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Because its hard to listen to someone when they choose to hurt you instead of talk to you.

If you feel I'm talking down to you, say I'm talking down to you. If you want to be seen as capable, we can talk about what that actually means. Deciding that I am like the sperm donor when I'm trying to have a serious conversation with you does what exactly?

It hurts me.

And it makes you believe I'm like him even though we both know I'm not. The more you insist I'm like him, the less you'll see me as a different person, and that doesn't help either one of us, and you know that Wylan. I want to be your dad, but I can't be that if you won't let me act like a good dad.

And unfortunately sometimes a parent has to give their kid the hard truths. Because being a parent is about guidance and unfortunately that means sometimes you do have to have some growing pains. Not because I have you beaten up, but because I have to have an uncomfortable and emotionally tense conversation with you.

And let's be fair, has your father ever sat down to actually have a conversation with you?

And MK would run away because that is one of the many, many, many unfortunate ways you are alike.
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[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2025-01-03 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Then say that. Don't say the thing you know hurts. If I hadn't been ready for you to pull that card, that would have been a lot more upsetting.

Because you do it a lot.

I also feel like you don't want to take any of my concerns seriously, which just makes them a lot worse.

Because MK wouldn't run because you're having a bad time alone, Wylan. But if he's stressed? If he's upset? He will run away. Not everytime, but he does it often. Just like you're trying to now. If I was having a panic attack, you'd stay and try and help me, right? But not when you are.
schrodingerscockroach: (Ugh why me)

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[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2025-01-03 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, this is a growing pains talk because this is a brand new kind of conversation to go through, but its important, because you have tendencies and while I think MK, as a person, is great, but I also know you both pretty well and I have grave concerns.

And you can feel he won't run away.

His history says otherwise.

Literally the other day says otherwise.
schrodingerscockroach: (Very tired)

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[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2025-01-03 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly? Both of you, but you are my priority. I'll break MK's heart a million times if I can avoid breaking yours once. I don't want to, and I am going to do my absolute best to make this the least painful as possible, but I can take hurting MK far easier than you.

He's the one who broke up with Macaque when Macaque was less than enthusiastic about you two.
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[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2025-01-03 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't want to. But the situation is messy. And the only way, literally the only way to get through the situation is having hard conversations. Leaving things unsaid will only cause a lot more hurt later.

[So the question is, is he still struggling with Argon?]

Did you? And what did you figure out from the conversation?

Other than apologies. They were a lot, right?
schrodingerscockroach: (Its okay buddy)

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[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2025-01-03 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Wylan, thinking of running away again.

But now that you are talking with me, I can slow down a bit.

So I need you to breathe, son. [He reaches for a hand, giving a light squeeze for a four count.]
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[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2025-01-03 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Gonna see if this helps. [He lets go of his hand to move under his arms, moving to lift them up.] Raise your arms, it opens up your diaphragm, more space to get air in.

Now try to breathe with me. [He holds up a hand, moving fingers to four as he breathes in, holds, then out with another four.]
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[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2025-01-03 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I know.

We know.

Macauqe isn't mad at you. Part of his struggle was he didn't want to hurt you, but didn't know how to do it without twisting himself into a knot.

Because you know, I'm dating him, and you're my kid.

But he doesn't blame you. You frankly don't owe him anything.

MK does and that's something they have to work through.
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[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2025-01-03 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not making a promise because MK is going to get some hard conversations, it just depends what kind and from who.

I'm not going to physically assault him.

But I can't pretend my concerns don't exist and they have to be addressed at the start.

But that is a conversation I would want him present for. I want to talk relationships with you and I think this is a very, very important question.

Wylan, do you think there is a single relationship out there that doesn't have pain?
schrodingerscockroach: (Its okay buddy)

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[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2025-01-03 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, and those happy moments count.

But its important to be able to have the small fights and the big fights and recover. While also making sure to not leave things to fester and wrought.

Tell me about the fight with Jesper. What it was about, how it was resolved, how you felt about it.
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[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2025-01-03 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
So he pursued you and tried to comfort you.

Did you comfort him about his shame?
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[personal profile] schrodingerscockroach 2025-01-03 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay. So that is how you deal when other things hurt you.

What about when you hurt each other?

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